Monday, April 23, 2018

Hangin' Out With 'Mr. Cineroc' Part 1

Back in 1976, I received a letter in the mail from Silver Spring, MD, dated October 16th  and signed by a gentleman by the name of Herb Desind.
In the letter Mr. Desind stated that he was a member of the Starlords International Association of Rocketry (This was a correspondence-based club run by Dennis Bishop out of Hawaii),  and had found my name on the membership roster, noting that I lived in Colorado, the perceived heart of model rocket country.
Herb stated that he was an avid flier of the Cineroc movie camera, and that he sought contact with model rocketeers all over the U.S. and the world.  He went on to say that he often sent Cinerocs and booster rockets to folks at many locations with the idea that they could take some interesting Cineroc film sequences for him at various scenic locales.
This letter was the beginning of a correspondence friendship that lasted well over two years.  I never had the opportunity to meet Herb in person, but we had several phone conversations, not to mention the dozens of letter communications that passed between us.
During this time period, Herb sent me a booster rocket - an Estes Omega upper stage which he re-named 'Mountaineer', along with one of his own specially modified Cineroc cameras.  I flew the camera for him several times, after which I would send him the film cartridges.  He would process them and always sent me back a copy.
Also, at Herb's request, I scoured the local hobby shop scene to find new Cinerocs for him. He was definitely a voracious buyer and user of the product! All told, I remember locating and purchasing a total of seven in the Colorado Springs area, which I sent to him, and for which he always re-imbursed me.  A short time later, Herb sold me two of the cameras, equipped with his own special modifications.
Unfortunately, I lost touch with Herb in the early 80s.
A short time later, in 1985, I exited the model rocket hobby.  Establishing a home, career, and family took precedence over model rocketry.
Sometime in the mid-1990s, I toyed with the idea of picking the hobby back up (BAR-ing in today's parlance). I began perusing the internet to see what the state of model rocketry was, since I hadn't kept up with it in over a decade.  It was then that I learned that Herb had passed away.  I was greatly saddened by that.
What made me even sadder was the fact that, when I had sold off all of my model rocketry stuff in 1985, one of my Herb-modified Cinerocs was in the lot.
I still kick myself in the butt for that one. 
If I could only get my hands on a time machine....
Anyway, that's all water under the bridge.  Spilled milk.  Etc., etc.
I still posses a notebook containing all of the correspondence and photographs that Herb sent along.
I still have the memories of my friendship with that remarkable individual.
I will now share all of that with the modern model rocketry community through this new blog series.
I hope some of you readers who knew Herb will enjoy this latest offering.
Stay tuned.

7 comments:

  1. Can you say what the modifications Herb made were?

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  2. Hi, Roy,
    Sadly, I no longer have the highly detailed instruction sheet that Herb sent with the rocket and cameras, and I don't remember many details from that long ago. I know he did a few internal mods, mainly with the pulley, probably substituting a stronger band than what the camera originally came with. In one of his letters he told me that the pulley was packed separately in the nose cone, and it is better stored there between flights. There were also instructions for aligning the mirror for each and every flight.
    Herb also designed custom rigging to the parachute attachment lines so that the camera would descend pointing slightly downward at an optimum angle that allowed panoramic scenery shots. He saw no point at all in taking movies of a flapping parachute! I do remember the Cinerocs I received from him were covered with some kind of very high strength, thin black tape from which emerged the rigging lines.
    In addition, Herb loaded his own film into the flight packs, usually enough to guarantee at least five flights per pack. He did all of his own film processing as well. In a couple of his letters he adamantly stated: "DO NOT SEND THE FLIGHT PACKS TO ESTES FOR PROCESSING!"

    The man was definitely serious about his Cinerocs!

    Sorry I don't have too many more details than this.
    -ed

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  3. I met Herb at a NARAM in Houston. He had me film one of his Cinerocs lifting off. Very cool!

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  4. He certainly got around a lot. In the letter I have from him he describes annual trips to Europe on during which he flew 15 or 20 Cineroc flight during the stay. He must have attended every major NAR meet there was in the 70s. He also made several trips to Colorado and Arizona, flying Cinerocs all the way.... Glad you got to meet him!

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  5. i grew up with him at eisenhower junior high school in laurel maryland. we did many crazy and fun things. launched cameroc's and cinerocs next to BWI airport and the football stadium in washington DC. when i moved up to mass in 1977, i took a lot of what i learned and brought it north with me. I used my "herb decind" technology to beat MIT 2 years running. they later wouldnt invite us back. he was a great man, and we all loved him. after i left Maryland, i never forgot him and stayed in touch with him. after awhile girls and things got in the way and i lost touch. he made a difference in my life.

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    1. just found this page after randomly deciding to do a search on Herb Desind. I was in that rocket club at Eisenhower too, he was great, my goto example of a teacher with passion for his topic (science) and his students, and cinerocs, of course :). he drove a gold colored Chevy II (what would later be the Nova) that reeked (in a good way lol) of burned rocket engines... I still have an Omega and a Cineroc around here somewhere (with modified staging) to rememberers,ber him by. yeah - life changing teacher.

      RIP Herbert "Moose" Desind

      peace and good flights !
      Doug Humphrey
      NAR 25373

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    2. just found this page after randomly deciding to do a search on Herb Desind. I was in that rocket club at Eisenhower too, he was great, my goto example of a teacher with passion for his topic (science) and his students, and cinerocs, of course :). he drove a gold colored Chevy II (what would later be the Nova) that reeked (in a good way lol) of burned rocket engines... I still have an Omega and a Cineroc around here somewhere (with modified staging) to rememberers,ber him by. yeah - life changing teacher.

      RIP Herbert "Moose" Desind

      peace and good flights !
      Doug Humphrey
      NAR 25373

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